This is in response to little moron Ashley Nicole:
1) “When Billboard reported Gaga’s South American shows as sold out, you claimed they were falsifying the numbers.”
Actually, no, dear. You are either blatantly LYING, or you are too stupid and retarded to understand what I have been saying all along:
What I always said about Billboard is that they REPORT numbers.
I more than once, in fact, had to explain to little morons like you that Billboard does not send people to the door of concert venues to count how many people walk in. They simply REPORT the numbers given by Live Nation.
Unlike what you moronically said, I never said “Billboard was falsifying the numbers.” As I pointed out above, Billboard simply reports the data that is given to them. You should look up the meaning of the word “report”. Let me give you a hint: it is NOT a synonym to “gather” or “collect” (as in “collect data” or “gather data“).
My criticism towards Billboard has always been on how they turn their blind eye to Lady Gaga’s failures and cover them up.
Accepting the numbers given by Live Nation and not questioning its integrity is a major flaw, and it shows that Billboard, as most of the mainstream American media, has no journalistic integrity.
If Billboard had no interest in protecting Lady Gaga, they would have questioned why Live Nation was reporting Lady Gaga’s shows as “sold out” when they clearly were not.
A simple comparison with most of Madonna’s shows in the same year, at the same exact venues, would have ignited a debate on how trustworthy Live Nation’s reports were.
When Madonna is constantly playing to more than 10,000 people over Lady Gaga’s audience (sometimes close to double) in the same venues, you know Lady Gaga’s shows are far from being “sold out“ in reality.
It is tricky when the discrepancy in audience is between 5k, 7k, or 8k in a closed space like a huge stadium. But when you’re talking over 10k people, or double in open fields (like Parque dos Atletas, in Rio), you know there’s something wrong.
But, no, Billboard had no interest in questioning the legitimacy of those numbers. They, instead, went ahead and reported numbers that clearly have been tampered, protecting Lady Gaga’s image and further increasing the ignorance of people like you, who don’t have an imaginative or investigating mind.
2) “The article states “roughly 200,000 tickets”. That number is an estimation. The real number would actually be closer to 250,000 since tickets are on average $100 and Billboard is claiming $25,000,000 in refunds.”
No dear, if the “real number” were close to 250,000, that would have been the number reported by Billboard for sure. Why would Billboard hide the “real number” and only publish a lower estimate when they have been protecting Lady Gaga’s image? Think. But no, the number Billboard received from Live Nation is 200,000 tickets. Correction: roughly 200,000 tickets. And that probably has already been jacked-up.
Even if it were 250,000, that would NOT mean Gaga’s average attendance per show would be on par with every other (sold out) show during the North American leg. With an average of 11,500 tickets sold per show (using your choice of estimate - not a fact), there still is a major discrepancy between the average capacity of the venues. Also, remember: there is a difference between “sold out” according to Live Nation’s PR and sold out in real life.
The average capacity for all those venues in the 22 dates Gaga was supposed to play is 18,338 people (for all the venues in 22 dates). Do the math yourself, little ignorant monster.
3) “Tickets are sold according to demand. If a venue can hold 20,000 people, they do no put out 20,000 tickets. Instead they sell tickets one by one until there is no longer any room in the arena. This ensures a 100% sell out rate. Gaga does it, Madonna does it, Beyonce does it, everybody does it.”
One example that completely nullifies your assertion that venues “sell tickets one by one” is simple:
You can buy more than one ticket per transaction.
So, no, unlike what you said, little moron, venues do NOT sell tickets one buy one. That alone completely crushes your moronic rationale, right? I don‘t think I even need to proceed here. What a fucking moron you are!
4) “The Bryce Jordan Center can hold up to 16,000 people during a concert with a stage in the center that does not block out any seats. Looking up pictures of the Bryce Jordan Center, Gaga’s stage would block out nearly half of the seats. Half of 16,000 is 8,000”.
No dear, Gaga’s stage is NOT as big as half an arena. Her stage does not take and/or block half the capacity of an arena. Don’t even try. No one would go on tour on that rate. It’s economically not viable.
Besides that, remember one fact:
Lady Gaga doesn’t even offer assigned seats on the floor (which pretty much is the norm in North America). Gaga’s shows are GENERAL ADMISSION, which means she can more than make up for the blocked seats behind her stage (for the most part).
In comparison, Madonna’s MDNA Tour stage was a little bigger than Gaga‘s. The floor in Madonna’s shows all had assigned seats in arenas in North America, and Madonna only put up to 240 people inside her Golden Triangle (that’s when the local security and law enforcement allowed her to put that many people). That means Madonna had up to 1,000 people on the floor (which is very few) on big arenas, while Gaga’s greedy General Admission can more than double that amount (depending on the venue, triple it).
Still, Madonna’s tour’s attendance was greater than Gaga‘s, even though Madonna played less shows, and had a drasticly different approach to seat assignments. And you still believe Lady Gaga “sold out” her shows just like Live Nation wants you to believe? How moronic can you be?
5) Your comparison of the two Madonna tours comes off as ignorant as any other thing a culturally-orphan little monster could say. You Lady Garbage fans seem to be great at repeating numbers and things you read, but you have a hard-time analyzing the info you get and the context in which they unravel.
Let’s go to the facts:
Madonna’s Sticky and Sweet Tour (2008) was the first Madonna tour to be created and promoted as a “stadium” show since the Girlie Show in 1993. There are 15 years separating these two stadium tours! The S&S Tour visited countries Madonna had never performed before. Now imagine the demand for those S&S tickets, dear.
Then only three years after the end of the S&S Tour, Madonna came back with another stadium tour (MDNA), visiting mostly THE SAME countries she visited with the previous tour. —- How do you expect the demand to be the same, dear? You have to be a complete moron to think the MDNA Tour should have broken the previous tour’s numbers.
Besides that, remember that the S&S Tour was divided in two legs, and despite having less dates in total, the two legs were nine months apart:
Madonna left Europe in September 2008, and she only started her second leg (exclusively played in Europe) in July 2009. In nine months, dear, you not only start “missing” your favorite star again, but you have enough time to budget yourself for a concert ticket that is not considered cheap. Which didn’t happen to Gaga, who finished the Monster Ball in early 2011 and still had a hard time selling out her North American shows two years later. Talk about the Disaster Ball!
6) And no, you cannot say that “technically Gaga’s touring success is increasing”.
Especially knowing that you’re considering unrealistic data given by Live Nation and reported by Billboard. My point:
How many tickets were given out for free for Lady Gaga’s concerts?
Since the Born this Way Ball arrived in North America, reports in the media have come out on how she was giving out unsold tickets on her tailgate party. But if those reports don’t mean a thing to you (you’re a little monster, after all), what about the several BUY ONE TICKET, GET ONE FREE deals offered by the official primary ticket seller in South America?
Let’s analyze one context:
Billboard reported that Lady Gaga’s only show in Sao Paulo, Brazil, was sold out. They say she sold 43,137 tickets.
But there is a problem: Sao Paulo was the first city in Brazil to receive the Buy One, Get One Free deal, and the full capacity of the Morumbi Stadium for a show like this would be between 55,000-60,000 people.
If you had half a useful brain, you would know that had Lady Gaga “sold” 43,137 tickets (like Billboard reported), they would have distributed 86,274 tickets - much more than the venue’s capacity (buy one ticket, get one free, remember?)
But no, that did not happen. Why not? Because the 43,137 tickets “sold” reported by Billboard actually included the FREE tickets distributed with that official deal.
In fact, the Brazilian media reported before the Billboard Box Score reports came out that about 21,000 tickets were distributed for free in Sao Paulo alone. Interestingly enough, the Billboard’s report say 43,137 tickets were “sold”.
If you do the math, you’ll find out that half of 43,137 (Buy One, get One Free, remember?) is 21,568 - that is very close to the 21,000 free tickets the Brazilian media reported before everybody else.
In fact, those numbers are too close to be just a coincidence, don’t you think?
As it has been proven, you cannot consider Lady Gaga’s numbers to make the assertion that her touring history has been increasing. Especially when, besides Sao Paulo, there was the show in Rio, in the parking lot in Porto Alegre, and in the other countries in Latin America - which all offered special deals with thousands of free tickets being distributed.
7) Above all, you cannot use a supposition to argument anything. “If the show had been able to finish” doesn’t exist in a real argument. If so, you have to accept “if Madonna adds a second leg of the MDNA Your…”, which, would not make a difference anyway. After all, the MDNA Tour became the 10th biggest tour in history and the #1 tour of 2012 anyway - with less shows performed than Lady Gaga, by the way.
Also, note that we are talking “money-making”. Money-making is a volatile element, dear.
Lady Gaga is the youngest person in the “money-making” tours list now, but can you say she will be in 25 years? Let’s analyze her career. Here’s a link for you to consider.
Also, don’t forget that in the 1980s, Madonna was in the same spot: her two tours (the Virgin our and the Who’s That Girl Tour) put Madonna among the most successful tours of that period. Just like gaga is now. But Madonna went on:
In the 1990s, Madonna’s tours were, again, among the top grossing tours of that era.
In the 2000s, Madonna’s tours were among the top grossing tours of that decade again.
And now, in the 2010s, Madonna’s tour still is among the top grossing tours of this period.
By comparing their careers’s numbers and statistics, it is safe to say that we won’t be seeing Lady Gaga’s tours among the top grossing tours in 25 years (unlike Madonna’s four-decade presence among the top).
Madonna’s career was rising in the same period of time Lady Gaga is, now, declining (check here again). So enjoy celebrating Lady Gaga having two tours on the highest grossing tour lists now, because in a few years, considering her current trajectory, she won’t be there in a few years.